24 Jun 2018
Shri Hrushikesh asked:
1) Dear Swami, To one of your discourses on Veda and concept of Human incarnation shared on the Facebook group Sanathana Dharma. Jossy Thomman has the following questions. How can authority and knowledge can go beyond the mind,? beyond the ego ? Regards, Hrushikesh, A Particle of Dust in your creation
[He (Jossy Thomman) says “The very attitude of authority of Veda is the darker than darkness of ignorance of ego ,the illusion of the I consciousness. There is no authority in Vedas and Upanishad. The very meaning of Vedas is ending the knowledge . Authority means knowledge. The very authority and knowledge is the cause of ignorance of the ego the I consciousness. In Vedas and Upanishad there is no concept of God, but the moment you bring the idea of God the very understanding of Upanishad and Vedas ended up in the human limitation and created the idea of God and me the separation and duality begins ;result is the mental conflict and suffering . That is how the organised religion and belief of Hinduism become the unconscious movement of the mental prayers, rituals and worships. Great sages who lived in the forest shared their wisdom of understanding to the younger generation .They never talked about God, but they were taught and shared consciousness, awareness, and aliveness. Their understanding rooted in the Brahma the cosmic intelligence of the ultimate reality. Once Gita was taken over by Hinduism, and Hindus ,it become the collective unconsciousness of the humanity ,and that is why as long as one create the image of Hindu one can never transform the ego to the cosmic intelligence of the ultimate reality”.]
Swami replied:- Why are you criticizing Hinduism alone? In Christianity, Islam and other several religions also, the concept of God is present. In Christianity, the human incarnation, Jesus, exists telling that He is the truth and light. The ‘I consciousness’ is also essential basis for the devotion and service to God. It is like the required normal temperature of the body. High temperature is like ego. Temperature below normal level is also dangerous because if you think that you do not exist, the idea of loving and serving God disappears. You should not disappear, but, should exist basically. You should not feel your growth even if you grow really and this is controlling ego. Ego is dangerous not only in spiritual life, but also in worldly life. You are true that sages concentrated on Brahman or unimaginable God treated as cosmic intelligence. If the basic ‘I’ overgrows, ego results and this ego obstructs devotion and service to God. This ego opposes human incarnation and the Gita is mainly based on the concept of contemporary human incarnation. I don’t know why you say that the Gita is taken by Hinduism. You shall say that the Gita is taken by the concept of human incarnation, which is nothing but the Brahman identifying Himself with a selected devoted human being for His expression to devotees. There is no trace of difference between cosmic intelligence and human incarnation since the same cosmic intelligence descended down for the sake of its clear expression to devotees. Since the concept of human incarnation exists in Christianity also, the Gita is taken by all religions.
The cosmic intelligence can never be imagined by you. Devotion involving prayers and worships is very good path since devotees enjoy the love of God like ants enjoying the sugar. A devotee said that he would like to enjoy the God-sugar becoming an ant. He didn’t like to become sugar to be bitten by ant-devotees. Even the monism experienced by the human being-component is lesser level than the dualism in which the love of God is experienced and enjoyed. If you can’t enjoy such devotion, please keep away from it and don’t criticize it. A fox, which could not catch grapes by jumping, returned saying that it is foolish to eat grapes, which are always sour!
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