24 Jan 2016
[2nd Message] Padmanamaskaram Swami.
Request You to please clarify my below queries;
1. In some discourses you have mentioned the merits of Avadhuta and they are blessed by God. But in many you were against them for their limitivity of their inert energy in awaken state as their final goal and will be born as inert objects (stones, trees etc). Please elaborate what message should we take on Avadhuta and what to avoid?
Shri Swami Replied: Avadhuta means the person, who attained total detachment from all the bonds with the world and this is the meaning of the word Avadhuta. Avadhutas are of two types: 1) the detachment from the world is attained due to the extreme attachment to God. 2) The detachment is only attained and there is no attachment to God since these Avadhutas think that they themselves are God. I have appreciated the first type and condemned the second type. Detachment from X should be the subsequential consequence of attachment to Y. There is no need of effort to get detachment. If you are attached to the divine nectar (Amrutam), you will automatically detach yourself from all other drinks. Without tasting divine nectar, if you try to avoid all the other drinks, such detachment is meaningless and also cannot stand for a long time. If you think that you are God showing full detachment from the worldly activities, it is hypocrisy only. If you say that you are God by showing such detachment, it is absurd because God is never inactive through full detachment from the world. God is always active with so many activities like attachment to devotees etc. Full detachment from the world and full exposure of inactivity means that he is neither extremely active like God nor at least shows normal activity like a human being. Such Avadhuta appears as inert stone without activity and hence will be born as the inert stone in the next birth. Gopikas were real Avadhutas, who were detached from all the worldly activities due to their full immersion in Krishna after He left Brundavanam.
The Avadhuta having full detachment from the world due to full attachment to God is the real Avadhuta and is appreciable here. His attachment to God is the only reason to achieve full detachment from the world. If this attachment is absent, there is no meaning in the detachment and such a fellow becomes inert item like a stone or tree.
2. In 1 of the discourse, you have emphasized on Nivrutti as goal for human souls and mentioned that if the a soul follows path of Nivrutti without self-realization then that should will achieve peace on Earth as well as in the upper world. Its justified that the upper world for that soul can be peaceful?
Shri Swami replied: Please clarify your question in more elaborated way so that I can reply your point straightly.
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Shri Kishore ram
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