29 Dec 2003
LAKSHMANA GITA: I II III IV V VI
Lakshman:
I am angry with You Swami!
First You told that there is no quantitative similarity
Now You say that there is no qualitative similarity also
Between Jiiva and Ishwara, I am confused
Is there no link between Ishwara and Jiiva? Please clarify.
Swami:
Oh Lakshman! Don’t be angry because you are Adishesha in human form
The fire that comes through your thousand mouths may burn My creation
I did not remove the qualitative and even the quantitative similarity
The difference is true, yet Jiiva can become Ishwara.
Jiiva exists completely different from Ishwara
Jiiva is different both qualitatively and quantitatively
Since Jiiva is a small particle he is quantitatively different
He is qualitatively different because water and vapor are different phases.
Well, this is the ground step in which all Jiivas are placed
All Jiivas have no any trace of similarity with Ishwara
This is the Dvaita theory of Shri Madhva
This is the status of the creation.
Remember that Jiiva is a particle of the world
Don’t think that Jiiva differs from the world qualitatively
The big vapor of the water drop is the world
The small tiny particle of the vapor is Jiiva.
Both Jiiva and the world come under the category creation
Jiiva is only the creation not the creator
Therefore, at the time of creation I am speaking
That Jiivas differ qualitatively and quantitatively from Ishwara.
Do not be discouraged that all Jiivas remain in that state
Some Jiivas by their effort could get the grace of Ishwara
Though Jiivas are the vapor particles originally
They are condensed into water drops but remain in the vapor world.
You know that the water vapor contains some water drops also
Such Jiivas attained the qualitative similarity with Ishwara
But they do not enter the sea, If they enter
They dissolve and merge in the ocean since the ‘I’ is lost.
Do not extend this condensation process to all the vapor particles
If you extend you have to say that all the souls are liberated
Advaita philosopher says this that all the souls are
Already liberated and every soul is Brahman already without any effort
The qualitative similarity can be achieved only by your personal effort.
It is like the communist policy to make all the people equally rich
But what is the process that is adopted here?
To loot all the rich and distribute the wealth equally to all the poor?
Or, teach the poor people to do hard work and become rich by their self-efforts?
In the first policy, all the poor people become equally rich, no doubt
But the hard-working rich man and hardly working poor man become equal
You are making the donkey and the horse to become equal
You are interfering with the creator who create both quite different.
Originally all the Jiivas are created as water drops only
All the Jiivas are having the qualitative similarity with Ishwara
They are not having the miraculous powers of Ishwara
But they had all the divine qualities of Ishwara and were good people.
Then there was no entertainment in the cinema without the villain
The Lord did not want to turn some Jiivas into villains
That will impart partiality to Him, He created
Both good and bad and gave discrimination and independence to all the souls.
He preached the difference in the results of both good and bad
To the world through the ruling sages like Manu
He also preached the world through spiritual sages like Sanaka
About Himself and about the real path to reach Him.
The first type of teaching was called pravrutti in which
You learn how to co-exist with others with peace
The second is nivrutti in which the Lord preached the real path
By which you can recognize, serve and attain Him salvated.
Some souls have deviated from both pravrutti and nivrutti
They are called demons, some followed only pravrutti
They are called human beings, some followed nivrutti
They are called Angels, all the three exists here only.
Therefore, why are you hampering over the qualitative similarity?
Which should exist in all the souls like the inherited property
This will spoil all the Jiivas from doing Sadhana, the self-effort
Advaita philosophers think like this and become lazy without sadhana.
Madhva is the latest preacher and His theory is the latest
He says that the soul is completely different from Ishwara
He also says that the souls differ from each other and are in different states
Such theory alone activates the soul to do vigorous sadhana.
By fighting and achieving the qualitative similarity
One does not attain anything without the self-effort
It is something like a person born in the backward caste
Fights for the selection of the post, which is reserved to his birth.
This makes all the people born in the backward caste
To become lazy while studying because their posts are reserved
Similarly, the Advaita philosophers become lazy in sadhana
Thinking that they have already inherited Brahman without any effort.
It is something like that you are tracing your blood relationship
With the chairman of the interview board by which you want to get the selection
Face the interview with your own merits, which distinguish you
From others and the merits are not inherent but achieved by effort.
Moreover, you are trying this blood relationship with the chairman
To be common in all the candidates, by this
What are you achieving? Do you want that all candidates
Should be selected to the one post and divide the one salary?
All the Jiivas are Brahman qualitatively
This brings the original situation of the creation
And again Brahman is bored
The Advaita philosophers are trying to bore the Brahman again.
By self-effort, you can achieve not only the qualitative equality
By the self-effort, you can even achieve the quantitative similarity
Ishwara can enter you and you become the human incarnation
In this birth itself while you are alive, the ocean is in the drop.
The souls are at different levels on the ladder
Due to the difference in their self-efforts
Let the basic level soul not achieve the qualitative similarity
Because He is not turned even towards the Lord.
You want to call everybody as a student
Even though they have not entered the LKG class
You want to call all the students in the school
As the students who have passed the 10th class with the certificates.
This is the reason why the Lord has created the second from one
Yes, the water vapor is completely different from water
All the theists and beasts do not have any similarity
They do not even touch Ishwara, Let them suffer their own.
The condensed water drops may exist separately above the ocean
Because if they merge, they may lose their identity
These water drops are parts of the ocean or limbs of Ishwara
This is the Vishishtadvaita theory of Ramanuja.
Since the water drops are not merged with the ocean really
They are not actual limbs of Ishwara but they are treated
As limbs of Ishwara, you say to some dear one
“You are my eye”, it means that you are like my eye.
Shesha in Sanskrit means the limb
Sheshii means Ishwara having the limbs
Ramanuja propounded this Shesha - Sheshii theory
Adishesha means the limb given the first place by merit.
Therefore, you are on the top of all the souls with gold medal
Now what do you want? Do you want every student to get the gold medal?
Yes, you try by preaching them so that all of them come to your level
By their self-efforts, I am pleased by such propagation.
Do you want Me to give a gold medal to each one,
Even though they fail and even not admitted
Or do you want to break your gold medal in to pieces
And give a piece to each one of them?
When the ocean enters into the drop by Maya
Such drop is human incarnation or Ishwara or Brahman
This is the philosophy of real Advaita of Shankara
The ocean will not enter every drop of water or vapor.
Every human being born on this earth is not Ishwara
The ocean has not entered every particle of vapor
The ocean did not enter even every water drop
Ishwara did not enter every devotee.
Every Jiiva is not Ishwara and every devotee is not Ishwara
The devotee is treated as limb of Ishwara but not Ishwara
But Ishwara enters some single divine body
That Jiiva alone is Ishwara as per Shankara.
The world is vapor phase and water is the phase of the Brahman
God and world are completely different phases
You are basically a particle in the vapor phase
By spiritual effort, you can enter water phase.
If you are in the water phase, Brahman remains as one
The second substance did not come from the one substance
If you are in the vapor phase Brahman created the second
From one substance the second substance is created.
Therefore, you can say that the world is Brahman
You can also say that the world is not Brahman
Both co-exist depending on the status of the soul
This is Maya, the confusion is true.
When the cat is exactly at the center of middle wall
You want a clear answer for the cat to be this or that side
If I say that the cat is on one side, it becomes a lie
It is on both the sides or it is not on any side.
The water drop sees only the sea of water
The vapor drop does not see the sea of water
The water drop does not see the sea of vapor
The vapor drop sees only the sea of vapor
Both seas of water and vapor co-exist in each other
This is the Maya, the highest confusion that I alone know.
Shankara called this Maya as Mithya, which means that
The world exists and also does not exist at the same time
The world is very very negligible before Brahman
You may say it as true
Or you may say that it does not exist since negligible.
It is true that a tiny particle of Brahman is really modified
The second substance appeared to entertain Brahman
The second substance exists, Ramanuja and Madhva say
The second substance is negligible and so
Does not exist at all, Shankara says.
There is no difference between Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva
Since all the three preachers are My forms only
Madhva is Brahma, Ramanuja is Vishnu,
And Shankara is Shiva, Datta is the one in the three.
There is one more upper step, which is the topmost level
The ocean does not enter the water drop and remains separately
But the ocean is the servant of the water drop
In this state, Ishwara becomes the servant of His devotee.
Therefore, this stage is higher than the stage in which
The ocean enters the drop that is the human incarnation
Radha is higher than Krishna because Krishna dances
As per the movement of eyebrow of Radha.
Oh Lakshmana! You have entered the topmost stage
I served you as your younger brother when you were Balarama
I kept your stage hidden in yourself only so that
You will never come under the clutch of egoism.
I made you think that you are a particle of vapor
You will be multiplied so much, as much you reduce yourself
You will be seeing the reduction only and the multiplication is hidden
Because if you see multiplication, you will be actually reduced.
When you are satisfied with the state in which
You are completely different from Ishwara and be a servant
Be an ant and continue tasting the Ishwara-sugar
The Sugar Mountain is your servant without your knowledge.
When you are not aware of the truth of fruit you get
All your service to Me is without the aspiration of fruit
You need not aspire for any trace of qualitative similarity
When the qualitative and quantitative mountain is at your will.
Let the fruit be hidden, since you did not aspire for that
Let all your service be done without any trace of fruit
I mean you should not see even the trace of fruit
Actually, the fruit as a mountain is in your account.
The qualitative similarity is the trace of your fruit
On which you should not concentrate since it is not inherited
It is not your ancestral property, it is not the gold chain
Which is already in your neck and which you have forgotten.
There is no gold chain in your neck that was inherited
The golden chain is in My hand, don’t look at it
When your eye is not on that, it is immaterial
Whether the chain is in My hand or on your neck.
Actually, the chain is in My hand but in your account
The jewels are in the safe locker of the bank
They belong to you only, if you put on your neck
The egoism thief will steal it in no time.
You are thinking that I have kept all your jewels with Me
You think that I have kept in My account and I own
No, Lakshmana! No, They are your jewels only always
I am just protecting them as your watchman-servant.
It is an infinite treasure of jewels, you are angry with Me
Fighting that I am not giving even a small ring to wear
But several robbers in this world forest surround you
When you come there, I will decorate you with all the jewels.
You want Me to make all the jewels converted into rings
And equally distribute to all the robbers around you
No, Lakshmana! I can never do this, you may fight with Me
It is the divine treasure, which you have earned by penance,
With your own self-effort during the past millions of births.
I have hidden your treasure in your name without your knowledge
You thought that the treasure belongs to Me only
You have joined with the other useless people
And form the union to fight with Me
To distribute the treasure equally to all the useless people.
Krishna gave the treasure to Sudama, which was infinite
Sudama does not know about this because he is not looking at the fruit
For the service by giving two handful lumps of rice
Sudama went back without asking a single coin from Krishna.
Shri Narasimha Saraswati, the incarnation of Lord Datta was given
The vegetable of leaves by a poor fellow without aspiring any fruit
While leaving, the Lord plucked the creeper of those leaves also
The family did not scold the Lord even then
They found hidden treasure in the ground at that spot.
Therefore, serve Me always with full belief in Me
Whatever I may do or speak don’t be affected by it
Give Me milk only even after My biting as a black cobra
All the poison will come out of you as a divine blue gem
THAT IS DATTA.
But if you think that My poison will definitely come as blue gem
I know what you think in the inner heart of your heart
Then you know you will die with the poison
And you should not scold Me in your last sentence.
Then it is a proof for your selfless service,
You may become alive immediately as per My wish
Or you may get the gem in the next birth
But you will not get the gem till you change internally
None can fool Datta at any time.
If you leave Datta and go to other deity
It is waste because Datta is the only actor
All the deities are the external inert dresses only
The same Datta has to give the fruit anywhere at any time
Datta means He who gives the fruits after tests.
The foundation of the whole sadhana is
The faith, the faith and the faith only
First you must have faith in Me that I am Datta
Then you must have faith that I will give you
The fruit multiplied infinitely for your iota of service.
To be continued...
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