15 Oct 2016
Shri P V N M Sharma asked: Do You preach Nivrutti only to the devotees of Nivrutti level and not to devotees of Pravrutti level? You say that welfare of the world is the goal of Pravrutti and pleasure of God is goal of Nivrutti and You also said that God is pleased with Pravrutti. How to reconcile both?
Swami replied: I told only that you should maintain large extent of the subject of Pravrutti and a little Nivrutti shall be introduced as medicine in the food of Pravrutti. Certainly, in the overall picture of the spiritual knowledge, Nivrutti is the highest level and its fruit is highest and eternal without any risk (Nivruttistu mahaaphalaah). Nivrutti is higher than Pravrutti and in Pravrutti the fruits are temporary involving high risk because the soul has to be very careful in every step. The fruit of Pravrutti is like daily wages. If you don’t come to work on a day, you will lose your income for that day. The fruit of Nivrutti is like the salary of permanent job and even if you don’t come for 2 or 3 days, being on leave, you will not lose the salary for those days. You can be removed from the job of daily wages on any day due to your negligence in the work. In a permanent job, you will not be removed from your job for your negligence. You will be rectified by a memo given for the negligence.
Every soul in Pravrutti aspires the fruit of Nivrutti only one day or other. The employee in daily wages always works with high discipline aspiring the permanent job in future since the contract job may be regularised in course of time. This attraction will maintain perfect discipline in Pravrutti. Moreover, Pravrutti alone can’t stand by itself without Nivrutti. If you preach Pravrutti and say that violation of Pravrutti is punished by the human law here, without the concept of God, people will try to violate Pravrutti if there is a chance of escaping the human law- punishment. You will drive left always fearing for the traffic police. But, if the traffic police is absent for some time or if the traffic police can be corrupted, you may violate this Pravrutti rule and drive right. But, if there is a CCTV camera in the centre, snatching photos continuously, you are caught for the violation. Similarly, if you follow Pravrutti with the fear of omniscient God, you will develop your in-built resistance to sin due to fear of God and will follow discipline perfectly in Pravrutti. Hence, the concept of welfare of world is not alive if the concept of existence of God is absent. Atheist, claiming self-discipline even without concept of God, is only example of just hypocrisy, hypocrisy only. If there is an opportunity to escape the legal punishment, atheists are the first to do sin since control other than human law does not exist at all in their view. Once the existence of God is established, Nivrutti stands from that point itself. Hence, the medicine is only Nivrutti (plus sign) and Pravrutti is the central neutral food (zero sign). The wrong knowledge of atheism is like poison (negative sign). You must note that both medicine and poison are chemicals only and look alike. Atheism is only creation of opportunity to do sin in a talented way to escape legal punishments in the world. Therefore, the job of the propagator of spiritual knowledge starts only with the introduction of the concept of existence of unimaginable God to punish any sin. Apart from the fear of punishment from God here or there, you have to develop strong attraction (devotion) to the personality of God so that these worldly bonds become weak and the sin of corruption in Pravrutti gets reduced. Every soul does sins in Pravrutti only due to strong worldly bonds, which are the family bonds, mainly with life-partner and issues (daareshanaa and putreshanaa). You must establish the goal as total dissolution of worldly bonds and simultaneous formation of single bond with God. If this goal is established, at least the worldly bonds become weak, if not destroyed completely. If your goal is to get 100% marks in the test, you will achieve at least 40% required to pass the test. By this, there is reduction of corruption-sin in the world.
The main chaos in the world is only due to economic imbalance since public is looted by not only politicians but also by almost all professionals, who are corrupt. This can’t be controlled if you preach Pravrutti just for the sake of Pravrutti only, by showing courts and police stations. People have done lot of research and are perfectly matured in escaping all these pseudo-control systems (since these are also corrupt!). The control should come within the self of every human being by the concept of omniscient and omnipotent God with unimaginable nature and unimaginable powers. Resistance to the sin can never come from an external agency. It has to be built internally from the childhood by introducing spiritual knowledge from the basic level of the system of education. Such in-built resentence alone can control the sin. Our ancient kings were very wise to achieve this in-built resistance to sin and made their administrations very simple and smooth without police stations and courts by stressing spiritual knowledge in the education from basic level itself. Hence, the concept of existence of unimaginable God and the necessity to develop a single bond with God to attain the eternal fruit are very important points of Nivrutti that can strengthen Pravrutti.
Therefore, the control of sins in Pravrutti is achieved through Nivrutti only in two ways: 1) the existence of omniscient and omnipotent God with unimaginable nature and unimaginable power knows your sin done even with highest secrecy due to His omniscience and you can’t escape His punishments either here or there due to His omnipotence. This is the control of sin in the case of majority of Pravrutti devotees, whose devotion is only due to fear to God. 2) A few devotees of Pravrutti control their sins not by fear but by their love to God. The love to God reduces the love existing in the worldly bonds as a result of which the worldly bonds become week and can’t provoke the soul to do sins for their sake. This second type of devotees have the added advantage that they may rise to the climax of Nivrutti and may become human incarnations or even masters of God in the highest level. The devotees in the higher levels of Nivrutti don’t have any risk of fall since God takes care of them always.
Nivrutti Means Love to God & Love From God Existing in Dynamic Equilibrium
Pravrutti and Nivrutti can’t be isolated from each other. If a devotee is in the high level of Nivrutti and spoils the Pravrutti, God becomes furious. If God is angry, Nivrutti disappears completely because Nivrutti means only love to God and love from God existing in dynamic equilibrium. Hence, there is no Nivrutti without Pravrutti. Demons follow the path of Nivrutti, attain miraculous powers, spoil Pravrutti and are finally killed by God. Their Nivrutti-path is not real because their path is only to achieve fruits from God. This is not real Nivrutti because real Nivrutti means only to love and serve God without aspiration of any fruit in return. The Nivrutti path of demons and real devotees may look as one and the same, but, both are entirely different like a diamond and a gravel stone. Ravana cuts his heads for the sake Lord Shiva. Gopikas jumped into fire for the sake of Krishna. Both look alike. Ravana sacrificed his life to please God and to get boons from Him for that sacrifice. Gopikas jumped into fire since they cannot live in this world in absence of Krishna.
As you have seen above, there can’t be Pravrutti without Nivrutti because in-built self-resistance to sin comes only from the love to God or fear to God. Thus, both Pravrutti and Nivrutti are complementary to each other at every stage. Every director likes his office to run on smooth lines. Even if his family member comes to his office and disturbs it, the director becomes angry with his family member. Hence, the devotee of Nivrutti must be careful about the fundamental pravrutti seeing that God is not furious with him at any stage. You can’t stand in the air leaving earth. Similarly, you can’t stand in Nivrutti, failing in Pravrutti.
Pravrutti is meant for the welfare of the world and Nivrutti is meant to please God. Of course, God is pleased if you contribute to the peace of the world since God is the creator and maintainer of this world. But, suppose God and world compete with each other and stand in the election, to which you will vote? A devotee of lower Pravrutti level will certainly vote for welfare of the world and not for God. The devotee of higher Pravrutti level called as real Nivrutti level, will vote for God only because world is created and maintained by God only. God has full responsibility of the welfare of the world than any human being here. This is only testing you for your devotion to God. After all, where is the world without God, which is just His imagination only? Rama tested Hanuman in this angle. When war started, on the first day, at the end of war in the evening, Rama told Ravana that if he returns Sita to Him by next day, He will go back without harming Ravana in any way! If Hanuman is a devotee of lower Pravrutti level, that night his thinking should have been like this “I came to God Rama to serve Him for the welfare of the world since He is the protector of the welfare of the world. Ravana is a terrible sinner and world is suffering from his atrocities. I thought that Rama will kill Ravana on the pretext of Sita and bring welfare of the world. If Ravana returns Sita to Rama by tomorrow, Rama will go back and the atrocities of Ravana will continue as usual about which Rama will not worry as per His promise! This means that I have come in the personal service of Rama and not in the public service or welfare of the world. Hence, let me quit this personal service and leave the war”. If one of us is in the place of Hanuman, next day morning, Hanuman is noted missing! But, Hanuman never thought in this angle and came to war next day as usual. Here, we must note that God is far higher than this world and these temporary and unreal worldly bonds. In fact, Rama has already taken care of this world, which Hanuman doesn’t know because next day, Ravana came to war rejecting the proposal from Rama. Rama tested the mind of Hanuman by this and didn’t change the mind of Ravana to return Sita there by harming the welfare of the world!
God will not favour His family members, but for His worldly duties of Pravrutti. Rama killed Ravana to liberate Sita as per the duty of the husband. Rama punished the same Sita by sending her alone to the forest for her sin done by scolding Lakshmana in the forest in such unimaginable manner when Rama went for the deer (that Lakshmana followed her to the forest with bad intention on her!). For God, the entire world is one and the same and there is no speciality for His family members. He kept Lakshmana with Him throughout His life and left Sita forever! If you are serving the human incarnation in Its personal duties, you are doing the spiritual service only indirectly. The reason is that though God exists in human body, the human body follows the natural laws only having limited efficiency. If the human incarnation saves some energy and time from its worldly duties, It can concentrate more in the spiritual work. This means that a devotee helping human incarnation in His personal work is doing the spiritual work only in indirect way. When Shankara defeated Mandana Mishra in the spiritual knowledge, he became disciple of Shankara and followed Him. Smt. Ubhaya Bharati also followed Shankara as disciple requesting Him that she will prepare and serve the food to Shankara so that He can continue His spiritual work in a better manner allotting His full time. Shankara could save some time and energy by avoiding begging, which consumes lot of time. Therefore, Ubhaya Bharati doing personal service to Shankara is doing only the spiritual service indirectly! You may think that God can use His miraculous power to avoid this problem instead of accepting the personal service of Ubhaya Bharati. God will never use His miraculous power for personal work and also will not interfere with the nature for the sake of self. God will certainly bless such devotees doing His personal work as said by the Lord in the Gita that He will take care of the welfare of devotees associated with Him, here as well as there (Teshaam satata yuktaanaam...). Moreover, that will be an opportunity given by God to devotees to serve Him personally and also to test the thought of devotees as in the case of Hanuman. When God takes care of the responsibility, things will be done with perfect safety than our efforts to the worldly duties. If the devotee serves God, God will take care of the entire family of devotee in most perfect way. It is like pouring water to the root (God) of the tree (family) by which the entire tree is green. If you avoid this and pour water on stem, branches, leaves, fruits etc., (self-efforts for family members) the tree will be dried because the tree absorbs the water through root only and not water through stems, branches etc., by your efforts. Any soul is blessed by God only and not by your efforts.
You must not doubt that God can’t do His personal work and needs your help. Shankara swallowed molten lead and doesn’t require the personal service of Ubhaya Bharati for food. Rama doesn’t require the help of monkeys in the war since He said “I can destroy this entire world in a fraction of second and can re-build the same in the next fraction of second” (sarvaan lokaan susamhrutya...). Does He need any external help? We must understand that by limiting Himself to a normal human body, He is giving opportunity to devotees to serve Him even in His personal work (like searching and fighting for Sita) to also test the devotee regarding His devotion diverted to God or welfare of world.
Therefore, I assuredly tell all of you that everything and every one of the devotee will be taken care of by God here and there, provided the devotee works for God keeping God above the world without aspiration for any fruit in return.
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