16 Nov 2015
Dr. Nikhil asked “You said that You are cooking the food (spiritual knowledge) and that we have to cater the food to the deserving devotees. Several people say that this spiritual knowledge is excellent. Please tell the program about this”.
Shri Swami replied: You can establish a trust along with your friendly devotees and form a trust for the propagation of the spiritual knowledge given by Lord Dattatreya through Me. You need not seek permission from anybody to do good divine work by which God is extremely pleased. God has given this knowledge through Me and the same God will propagate this knowledge through all of you. The only precaution here is that all of us including Me should be always aware of the ego-jackal that cleverly enters our souls without our knowledge leading us to utter fall and failure. We shall always remember that we are fans of God like the fans of current, which can move only by the entry of current into them. As long as this one factor is not forgotten, everything goes well. A time will come when this knowledge will drown the entire universe like a tsunami as per the prediction of Nostradamus. That will happen by the will of God. This does not mean that you should keep silent about the propagation till that time. In your own way, you should always try to propagate this divine knowledge, which is the divine service that extremely pleases God. All the monkeys were sent towards the four directions to search Sita. Rama knows that Hanuman going to south direction will certainly see Sita and hence gave His ring to Him for identification. In such case, why the monkeys were sent in all the directions? The reason is that every monkey will participate in the service of the Lord. Similarly, we should not wait for the time of divine will and we should always put efforts to do the work of God irrespective of the fruit. Our work will please God and we should not bother about the fruit of our work. The fruit will come in full form in the time of divine will.
Jesus told that no messenger will be famous in His own place. The reason is the repulsion between common media, which are the human forms of receiver and preacher resulting in jealousy. Even if the preacher belongs to other place, still, jealousy appears due to the above said repulsion since the repulsion is unavoidable in the case of contemporary human incarnation. Hence, the statement of Jesus shall be modified, which should be that no messenger alive will become famous. Hence, this knowledge will become very famous after Me. Perhaps, God knows that I (the human being component) am not very capable to resist the ego. In order to save Me from such cruel trap and avoid the crucifixion of My soul by the ego, God has modified the statement!
Discussions & Debates Through E-mail is Best
For the best spiritual knowledge, best time is also essential, which is today. In the olden days, the writing facility was extremely poor. One can produce only one book through writing on palm leaves and simultaneously printing several copies of the same book was highly impossible. Only oral discussions and debates went on. In the oral debate, the main defect is that there was no gap of time for the question and the answer to be given. Since the answer to be given consumes a part of the energy in thinking and another part of the energy in speaking the answer immediately, the thinking process cannot utilise the total energy available at that time. Due to this, perfection in the answer becomes doubtful since insufficient energy was available during thinking process of the answer. If the answer is already known and got settled in the mind, this problem will not occur and all the energy available can be completely used in speaking the answer. Today, this problem is not there because even if a new question is asked through e-mail, the preacher can take sufficient time to think about the answer and no energy is needed for communication. The reply can take sufficient time to finish its full form. In the oral debate, sometimes, the answer does not strike immediately and the perfect answer may strike the brain after some days. This is called as starting trouble of the brain - machine. Thus, the discussions and debates through e-mail communication is the best either in science or spiritual knowledge. In the case of some people, the brain–tube light is not ignited on the spot but may be ignited after the expiry of proper time! This is a common feature in the case of several learned scholars as said 'Vipraah Pashchimabuddhayah', which means that the intelligence of great scholars is lit after the expiry of proper time. This defect makes the line of debate to proceed in wrong direction because the psychology of a scholar is always to substantiate whatever already said by him or her. The wrong answer given by a person in a hasty way in the beginning cannot be contradicted by himself even though his brain finds the correct answer in course of time. This is the problem of ego. If the correct answer is found by somebody else, there is no trace of scope to accept the correct answer given by someone else. This is the problem of jealousy. Ego does not allow self-contradiction and jealousy does not allow the contradiction coming from some other person. Almost every human being is entangled by the ignorance–cyclone, which is a mixture of ego–wind and jealousy–rain. All these psychological problems lead to the diversion of the right channel of the spiritual knowledge. Hence, I recommend this path of discussions and debates among you, which must be always associated with patience (Shama). Shankara told that the first required quality to learn the spiritual knowledge is to have patience, which is devoid of ego and emotion. Shirdi Sai Baba also said that concentration (Nishthaa) and patience (Saburi) are essential qualities for a spiritual aspirant.
In the debates, none should be worried about his or her personal success or defeat since the main aim of the debate is only to find out the truth. Truth is not relative of any person. Truth is independent and cannot be linked to any person. At the end of the debate, when you find out the truth, it is useful to both the debating scholars irrespective of the scholar, who found out the truth. Two thirsty persons discussed about the probable direction to reach the river so that both can pacify their thirst by drinking water from the river. One is arguing about the probability of the river to be on the east side and the other is arguing about the probability of the river existing in the opposite west side. At the end of the discussion, suppose it is proved that the river is on the east side. In such case, both the persons shall go towards east side and pacify their thirst. The person arguing about the west side should not be rigid opposing the east direction and walk to the west side only to die with thirst. Here, there is no meaning of victory and defeat. Crown is not put on the head of the person going to east and crown does not fall from the head of the person going to west. Both are investigating the truth and the truth may be achieved by any one of the two debating persons. Hence, the victory and defeat should be immaterial and what matters is that the truth investigated will help anybody irrespective of victory and defeat in the argument. Both runner and winner are congratulated for playing well in the game. Congratulations are not limited to winner only. If any side is absent, the game itself disappears. Both are like positive and negative electrodes participating in the circuit of transmission of knowledge–current. Both are of equal status only. Lord Krishna said that He is Arjuna also (Paandavaanaam Dhanamjayah- Gita). This means that the question from Arjuna has equal status with the answer from Krishna. Due to the questions and answers coming out from both these divine personalities only, the Gita is formulated, which helped the entire humanity forever. Shankara and Mandana debated for several days and finally the arguments of Shankara exposed the truth. Shankara is Lord Shiva and Mandana is Lord Brahma. Both are the forms of the same unimaginable God. Brahma took the wrong side because somebody has to take that side. Brahma represented the wrong scholars and debate answered all the wrong scholars. Brahma took that wrong side only to help the debate so that the wrong scholars get rectified. Even before the debate, both Shankara and Mandana know the truth. Both have acted in the two opposite roles for the sake of welfare of the world.
Accept the Concept By Its Inherent Merit
I have made a decision that Lord Dattatreya alone is emitting this knowledge through My throat. The reason is that when I start giving answer for any question received by Me, I never think about the answer before dictation. As I start giving the answer, excellent thoughts spontaneously flow like the river, Ganges. Even one thought of these cannot be achieved by not only My brain but also any other human brain. About this point I have rocky faith. This made Me believe that He entered Me and is giving this unique knowledge. This itself is unique proof to establish the truth and there is no necessity for Me to tell you that Lord Dattatreya appeared before Me and told the same to Me. The reason is that any body can say in the same way about such vision. The proof lies with the quality of knowledge and not with the vision. I want to impress you about this knowledge by asking you to test the quality of this knowledge directly and not make you believe that this knowledge is excellent because I had such vision. In the ancient days also, some foolish concepts were propagated by the ignorant scholars by saying that the concept was told by Lord (Eshwara) as the answer for the question put by the divine mother (Parvati). They force the people to believe these ignorant concepts since the Lord told these concepts! The concept should be accepted by its inherent merit proved by sharp analysis and not by believing blindly the witness. Even in court, after the witness, arguments follow to decide the genuine truth of the witness and the witness can be discarded if proved false in the analysis. Scriptures and visions cannot be the certificates of your concepts. The concept should be certified by its own inherent merit. This knowledge will spread all over the world by its own merit. The certificate for a lotus flower is its own scent. But, your service is required in carrying the lotus flower to all corners of the world. I assuredly tell you that this knowledge is the final in real sense. This is not self-praise because I have already told you that I am only the speaker and not the author of this knowledge. I also enjoy this knowledge like anyone of you. If you hear the speech of some person delivered through mike, you hear the speech of the person only through the sound energy of the mike. The speaker is the Lord, My throat is the mike and My message is the sound energy of the mike. I spend all My energy in simple dictation of this knowledge and not in the process of thinking the answer to be given. This should not be imitated by normal human beings unless God speaks through them. Hence, I gave the advice of utilizing the full energy for thinking about the answer before its delivery so that neither you will face self-contradiction or contradiction from others.
While propagating this spiritual knowledge, you have to face this world suffering from ego–Cancer and jealousy–AIDS. This world consists of three types of people: 1) Philosophers believing God through their personal miraculous experiences in their lives. 2) Scientists believing God through their careful observation and subsequent sharp analysis of genuine miracles and 3) Atheists disbelieving God due to their rigid ignorance blended with ego and jealousy. The atheist is like a serious patient with complicated problems of health like heart attack, diabetes and failure of kidneys. The main problem with the atheist is the absence of open mind. A scientist differs from atheist in having open mind. A room with one open door exposed to external free space is always filled with light and air. A room with several doors and windows is filled with darkness and suffocation only if it is covered by other houses externally. These conservative atheists with closed minds, neither observe nor do true analysis of the genuine miracles. They simply throw away the genuine miracles calling them as magic. They perform certain miracles through magic. For example, they generate ash by hiding it in the gap of fingers of the hand. By this, they say that Shri Satya Sai Baba also generates the ash from the hand in this way. In such case, on certain occasions, Shri Baba generates big bags of ash by moving His hand in an inverted vessel held by some devotee. They are unable to do this genuine miracle and keep silent when asked!
You may discard the genuine miracles by ego and jealousy, but if you are a scientist, you cannot do away with the miraculous concept of the infinity of space. A system must have definite or at least imaginary boundaries. The boundaries of the cosmic space are unimaginable and this infinite universe with unimaginable boundaries, no longer remains as the scientific system. In such case, what is experimentation to be done in the case of infinite energy (space), which stands as the system for the law of conservation of energy? Unless you calculate the total energy of the universe, how can you say that it is a constant value? The atheist always shouts for the experimental proof even though thousands of human incarnations have performed lakhs of miracles in presence of millions of human beings of all the countries in this world. Even the scientific theory like constant expansion of universe tells us that the space is not inherently infinite, but, becomes relatively infinite as your mind travels through it to touch its boundary. This means that the space is not really infinite by itself, but, relatively infinite and expands continuously before your mind reaches its boundary. The conclusion is that the boundary of the space can never be touched by your mind since the space continuously expands before your mind reaches the boundary. The constant expansion of space indicates the main point that boundary of space, which is the unimaginable God, can never be reached by your mind (Apraapya Manasaa saha– Veda, Naantosti – Gita). This is the absolute point and the relative point is that the space is constantly expanding ahead [of] your mind. You must establish the spiritual knowledge on this basic foundation, which is that the absolute God is unimaginable. All the other concepts should be built like castles on this strong foundation.
All these precautions are very important in the propagation of spiritual knowledge. Lord Dattatreya hereby gives permission through My throat to all of you, the blessed and selected devotees, to carry on the propagation of this unique spiritual knowledge for the benefit of this entire humanity and the Lord will be extremely pleased with you.
Context Depends on Likes & Dislikes of God
[November 17, 2015 Evening] Shri Phani asked:
1) With reference to the answer given by You to Dr. Nikhil today, is it not better to do the personal work of God in human form than the propagation of His knowledge for the welfare of the humanity to prove that God is higher than humanity?
2) Don't You think that the caste system by birth is more accurate since the genetic engineering says that the qualities are transmitted from generation to generation by birth in the dynasty of a caste?
Shri Swami Replied: 1) Your love, which is the practical sacrifice, should be proved to be towards God only and nothing else. Nothing other than God is even equal to God and not to speak of higher status for it (Na tat Samah - Veda). This must be proved clearly in every activity of the devotee. You must do such service, which is liked by God and ultimately pleases Him. This should be the criterion to test which type of work is personal and which type of work is not personal. His liking and pleasure are the only two guidelines for identifying His personal work. Of course, propagation of His divine knowledge for the welfare of humanity indicates your love towards the humanity also and the reason for such love may be that you are one of the human beings. If this is proved, your uni-directional love to God is dissipated. You should follow simply His interest and you should not bother about whether some work is personal or external. If God likes the propagation of spiritual knowledge in this world for the welfare of entire humanity that should be done because that is His personal work since He likes it today. Tomorrow, if God likes you to work for His pleasure in some other line, you should leave the work started yesterday and dedicate yourself to the new work indicated today. This is called as the total surrender and unique devotion as said in the Gita (Teshaam Satata Yuktanaam, Sarvadharmaan, Eka Bhakthih...). Your total surrender will be tested by God frequently like the medical check-up of the patient everyday by the doctor.
I will give an example from Ramayana regarding the context in which God and humanity competed with each other. Sita was stolen by Ravana and Rama started war against him to get back Sita, which is His personal work. The war is aimed at getting back Sita. This is the personal work of Rama, which is liked very much by Him. You do not know the inner meaning of this aspect because you think that Rama likes very much His wife. The reality is that Sita as Maha Lakshmi is the greatest devotee and is far greater than this humanity. Another angle of this war is to kill Ravana on this pretext for the welfare of humanity. Hanuman joined Rama and participated in the war with full concentration and dedication. Since achievement of Sita and welfare of humanity by killing Ravana are intermingled with each other in the war, we do not know whether Hanuman participated in the war for the personal work of Rama or for the welfare of humanity, Any aim of these two is simultaneously linked with the other aim. Hence, the aim of Hanuman should be tested so that His specific aim is exposed for the guideline of devotees. At the end of the war, on first day, Rama told Ravana that if Ravana returns Sita to Him, He will stop the war and return. This means that Rama aimed only to achieve Sita and not at the welfare of humanity. Now, if Hanuman came for the welfare of humanity, Hanuman shall drop Himself from the war since the welfare of humanity was sacrificed by Rama for the sake of Sita by the above statement. But, Hanuman did not withdraw from the war. He continued the war since Rama liked getting back Sita only. In such case, getting back Sita is the only aim of participation of Hanuman in the war. Welfare of humanity by killing Ravana is neglected by Hanuman also since Rama neglected it by the above said statement. Suppose Ravana returned Sita even in the absence of the above statement. In such case, suppose, Rama said that He will kill Ravana for the safety of this world even though Sita was returned, Hanuman will continue the war since Rama likes the welfare of humanity and killing Ravana in the war is now the personal work of Rama. Here, the welfare of humanity does not exist at all and only Rama's liking exists in the view of Hanuman. Whatever is liked by Rama is the duty of Hanuman. Shri Shirdi Sai Baba asked a Brahmin devotee fasting on the auspicious Ekadasi day to immediately kill a goat present before Him. The devotee was ready to kill the goat. This is the test of total surrender. Hence, you cannot decide what His personal work is. It is decided only by His liking. If Rama likes to get back Sita, that is the personal work of Rama. If Rama likes to kill Ravana for the welfare of humanity irrespective of getting Sita, that is the personal work of Rama.
When the human incarnation is alive, you can work under the direction of God in human form whether it is propagation of His knowledge or cooking food or washing His clothes. After the exit of human incarnation, the only personal work of God left over is propagation of knowledge, which again competes with your personal works. The test is always continuous whether the human incarnation is alive or not. Gopikas were asked to give definitions of sinful and pious deeds. Gopikas replied that whatever makes Krishna furious is sinful act and whatever makes Krishna pleased is pious deed (Hareh kopakaram... Krishna Bhagavatam composed by Shri Datta Swami). The context depends on His likes and dislikes only and not in our actions. This is the total dedication and real devotion to God.
2) Genes carry on certain special physical characteristics and certain diseases including psychological problems also, but, not the qualities of the individual soul. If the qualities are also carried on by genes by birth from generation to generation, the classification of the caste system by the Lord should have been said based on the birth and not based on qualities and actions (Guna Karma Vibhaagashah- Gita). Actions are subsequent practical expressions of qualities only. Hence, if qualities are mentioned, the related actions are simultaneously mentioned, If the source of the quality is gene, carried on by birth, from the parents to their child, God need not say that the caste system is based on qualities. He should have said that the caste system is based on the birth, which is the transmission of qualities by genes. It is practically absurd since we have seen the most pious Prahlada born to the worst demon. Similarly, the worst Duryodhana is born in the pious dynasty of Bharata.
The transmission of the qualities of the parents to the child is correct. But the reason for such transmission is not the effect of genes. The reason for such transmission of qualities from parents to the child is that the child picks-up the qualities of the parents since it is in their atmosphere and influence from the childhood. Even if the child was born to some other couple, if it grows in the atmosphere of scholastic parents, the child becomes scholastic like their own child since the scholastic quality of the child is due to the scholastic atmosphere existing in the house and not due to genes. The influence of atmosphere is the real reason and the effect of genes is false reason of the real process of transmission of the qualities from one to the other. The false reason is projected and superimposed on the real reason by the conservative caste–biased people. In the same Raghu dynasty, Rama was born with excellent divine qualities and Agni Varna was also born with worst qualities. The divine qualities of Rama were from His source, Lord Vishnu. The Raghu dynasty was also pious with very good qualities. This is an accidental and incidental co-incidence that makes you to misunderstand that the divine qualities of Rama were from the Raghu dynasty. You must analyse deeply and avoid such illusions. Caste must be based on the qualities and related actions only. Rama is a Brahmin and Ravana must be of the most backward caste. This is the truth and other than this must be due to illusions based on biased caste system by birth. I am also a Brahmin and as the human being component, I am also biased towards the caste of Brahmins. But, what can I do? The Lord in Me is speaking the true knowledge only (Satyam Jnanam– Veda). The speaker is different from the mike.
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